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, give a speech flowing enough in poetry but rooted enough and public policy. starting with michelle obama before the him, and bill clinton himself and his vintage form, i think obama took the baton and ran the last leg and did so with oratorical flourish. >> it certainly is not the sports like assessment that i just heard from the good doctor. we have been saying for some time obama is not the lesser of evils, but the more effective evil. we base that on his record and on his rhetoric at the convention. we prefer to talk about what history making events have gone down under his presidency. first of all, he has created a model for austerity a veritable model with his deficit reduction commission. his introduced preventive detention, a law for preventive detention and expanded drone wars and made an unremitting assault. i think possibly the biggest impact to his presidency, and not talking about all of this like an eerie stuff from the convention, but probably what will go down as his biggest contribution to history is a kind of merging of the banks and the state with $16 trillion bei
and showcase their candidate. the much anticipated line-up of speakers includes first lady michelle obama and former president bill clinton. the convention concludes on thursday with vice president joe biden and finally the president and his acceptance speech. joining me now in charlotte, mark halperin, the editor at large for "time" magazine. >> welcome. i need to introduce to you-- i need not introduce to you this program and this audience but it is a good way to start, you know. tell me what ought to come out of this convention? what should the democrats hope to accomplish in the same way the republicans hope to do two things, one is to define the good things and the likable things about mitt romney and at the same time, suggest to those democrats who like barack obama but might be willing to change why they should change. >> i think from talk together democrats, both those working for the president and other smart democrats i think there is three broad things. one is to put the frame on mitt romney, the negative frame on him in a way that does not seem mean-spirited, that does not see
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